Artist talk in Katarina Church in Stockholm with photographer Erik Hagman, Vicar Camilla Lif, and Professor Kevin Noone at the Department of Environmental Sciences. “New Heaven and New Earth” comprises images from the Aletsch and Rhône glaciers in the Alps, both scarred by global warming. The exhibition formed the backdrop for the discussion, taking a starting point in the concern for the current state of the world's climate and ways forward. The recent years' rising numbers of conflicts and wars have shifted focus and silenced much of the discussion about the climate and solutions. The world and life itself will find a way forward, but our human society is at grave risk, and new solutions like degrowth and the adoption of an alternative economic system are desperately needed.